The internet is going dark tomorrow

You're on your way to DC? Good on you, I'm sure they are terrified of you. You realise of course that every effort to police the internet has failed simply because the size and scope of the internet is so pervasive that it is not possible to control it.

But the Internet ought to be policed. Libertarians want no law, no police, of anything, but they are wrong. it is important that the force of law can work effectively at every level. How that law is employed is a matter for discussion and debate. We should not be afraid of that. But to promote lawlessness, libertarianism, is dangerous and sets a bad precedent for the rest of society.

Do you really advocate a society without law? How are you getting to DC? Who is paying for it? Are you going by plane? Do you know what sort of society is required even to produce an aeroplane? And you want to stop them from - what exactly? Stopping the internet? Well perhaps stopping the internet would not be a bad thing at all, but I don't think that is on the agenda. Do we want to stop the state from dictating to us what we can and cannot view? Well that's an idea, I suppose, no doubt I could look up some kiddie porn on my nights of, or join some hate group or other, some neo nazi organisation that is hiding away somewhere behind a thousand keyboards silently recruiting its members.

I'm all for the police. I've been arrested possibly thirty times, so it's not to say I have never had run ins with the police force. But I know where lawlessness leads. I have committed crimes, and been punished for them. Where the state seeks to interfere unduly in the freedoms of others we should rightly protest.

We ought to rightly protest the loss of our rights. But the right to the internet? is this a right? I'll make sure I tell that to the people of Sudan next time I am down that way.

Really, the fucking government of the United States ought to be concerned with much bigger matters than the Internet, but so should we. The internet has not changed the way people think. It is not free. Ninety percent of it is controlled by corporations. Facebook seems to me a trap to catch people and take their lives and independence from them. People think by liking a protest page on facebook you can change the world. You cannot. It isn't that simple. Changing people takes real people real time to effect change. Flying to DC in your jet plane won't do this.

I must say, to take up another, different but associated point, I'm not a fan of the global climate change guru from America, he's so forgettable I've forgotten his name, he jet planes around the globe emitting god knows what fucking emissions and acts like a goddamn guru getting people to endorse his platform of low emissions, one of these people who had joined his troupe actually criticised a group of protestors I was involved with for trying to save a forest from a mine. His argument was that the forest was already degraded. But EVERY TREE reduces carbon in the atmosphere. This small forest was valuable to us, and ought to have been protected. In Australia we are still logging our old growth forests. It's a shame. Forests are carbon sinks, and ecosystems that can never be recovered. Anyway, whatever his name is, he and his people support destroying forests and flying around in jet planes. Seriously I'm over it.

SAVE THE INTERNET! For gods sake it doesn't need saving. As if anything anyone can do can harm it. It is Leviathan. It has a life of its own.

It is pointless fighting to save the internet. And it is seriously wrong. We ought to be promoting what we think is right about the internet, and PROTECTING THAT. Not simply saying "we love and want to distribute child porn" or whatever else it is you think you are protecting.

So there!

Noel, I have deleted you because of the "you are just plain dumb", a personal insult which is not tolerated here.
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The internet is already controlled, google ar epaid by advertisers to promote websites, in china you cannot access the same sites as in the united states, not is the entire world spinning on the apex of the israel problem, two zionists in the american senate don't decide what everyone thinks, it is about kiddie porn, it's about neo nazis, libertarianism is as dangerous as state control, the way forward is open debate, not crying every time someone mentions the internet and censorship in the same breath, i'm all for sharing on the net, i use the internet profusely, noentheless i have no problem with government playing a role in the internet, with the law playing a role in the internet, people make changes to the world, we can do that today, we could do it yesterday, we will be able to do it tomorrow, nothing the united states is doing or has done can change that, by limiting free speech, as you say, by suppressing people's freedoms, new freedoms will evolve, people change to accommodate whatever the state can throw at us, we are not at the mercy of the net, and the net is not free, remember it, google is a very large corporation, so is facebook and yahoo and ebay, nothing is free, it's crazy to think that promoting libertarisanism on the net will change the world, not even wikipedia is truly free, i don't believe in libertarisism, it's basis is in radical right wing politics, if the left think they have done something clever by adopting parts of it they are fooling themselves, as a tool of education the net has a strength in helping people to free themselves from ignorance, but self empowerment takes a damn site more than googling the word "freedom," i believe the left is being hoodwinked by a subversive element that seeks to undermine it, perhaps i am the last stalinist haha, that would be funny, but crazier things have been said, israel is almost a non sequitor, it doesn't matter anymore, the only thing that makes israel dangerous is that they have th ebomb, which is why the world needs a nuclear iran, just to put them back in their place.... grumble grumble grumble

Christ, you make no sense if you think the carbon tax makes air not free, it is the fucking pollution in our lungs and stratosphere that makes the air not free, the only problem is no-one has been paying for this except you and me, nobody has had to pay a pollution tax cos no-one has recognised that the air we breathe and that the planet breathes is the most essential thing we have, no it's not free, but it isn't the carbon tax that does that, it's the worlds polluters, get off your anti zionist platform, after all they just want a homeland, i know it isn't that easy but that is what zionism is at any rate, life without Wikipedia?, well I don't use that for a source of information thank you very much, groups like Indymedia can survive this stuff, that's what they do, subvert authority, but you aren't free to choose what you read or see on the net, that is a furphy, it's all made up, most of what you see and hear are lies, how can we know the truth when we fail to even know ourselves? The net is not free, it's controlled by big brother, facebook watches your every move, with GPS they can track you on your phone, we need to stop believing in conspiracies and start changing the world from the bottom up, demand better answers, I think Israel was just created to distract us, it's not a real issue, it's the ownership of things that affects how we make our decisions, it is the excesses that wealth is turned towards that creates gods out of mortals, we need better answers, the laws they are trying to introduce regarding the internet are simply not that important, that doesn't change the way things are, nor does the status quo, the internet ought to be policed, it is how that is managed that is important, one of these bills i hear is to protect intellectual property rights, but rights themselves are a furphy, America does not have the right to impose intellectual property rights on the world, that is how genes are copyrighted and medicine can't get to the people who need it most. So destroy the dialogue that promotes intellectual property rights, destroy the dialogue that promotes private property and unfettered capitalism, that is what we need, the internet serves the ruling classes, that is the damn truth of it.