Marrickville has become the first local council in Australia to join the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign against Israel.
This week the Council voted 10 to 2 for the motion to support the BDS -- an international campaign designed to stop trade and investment in companies, sporting teams and other institutions with ties to Israel.
It aims to coerce Israel to restore human rights and return occupied land to Palestinians.
The United Nations and Australian Federal and State Governments have refused to support the BDS.
But the NSW Greens are backing the campaign.
2SER’s Elise Scott spoke with Green’s Marrickville Councilor Cathy Peters, who put forward the motion this week.
Hear the interview here:
http://2ser.podomatic.com/entry/index/2010-12-17T21_34_06-08_00
More info about BDS:
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Re: Marrickville Council first to support the boycott Israel ...
If you want to boycott Israel you have to include America also.Jews in America make up 1.7% of the population but control positions of power disproportionate to the population.It is impossible to become president of the U.S.A without support from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)a massive Zionist lobby group(name one that has ?) currently headed by Obama freind and funder Zionist Lee Rosenburg.Obama appointed Rahm Emanuel to be his white house cheif of staff.Emanuel who has served in the Israeli army,is the son of a former operative with the Irgun terrorist group that helped bomb Israel into existance in 1948 and caused 800,000 Palistinians to flee their home land in terror.Hows this, one of the Zionist gang that help cause the G.F.C is appointed by Obama (THE PUPPET) Timothy Geither as Treasury secretary we are going to give him second turn at wrecking the world. The list goes on and on of zionists that run America thus the world like Robert E Rubin,Alan Greenspan, Larry Summers,David Axlerod,Bernard Bernake,Henry Kissanger, Cass Sunstein,Carol Browner,Todd Stern.Zionism is an elite secret society at its rotten core and the people named here and so many more are not agents of Jewish people as a whole but agents of the secret society that has mercilessly manipulated the Jewish population for centries to advance its goals.So lets boycott America Too!!!!
You mess with God's chosen people at your own peril
It has really saddened me to read of all this vitriol against Israel. Most of you are uninformed. There never was a Palestinian race, they are Arabs who have called themselves Palestinians. God gave the land of Israel to the Jews FOR EVER (which also means NOT ALTERING THEIR BORDERS!!), and God will not be mocked and neither will the Jews be annihilated. It is HIS land and He will fight for it. Read your Bibles and learn the truth. The Bible also clearly states that those who persecute the Jews will NOT go unpunished. They ARE His chosen people. You mess with them at your own peril.
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It's good to see you quote the bible and if you are going to do that you will realize that Jesus was the son of God and the King of the Jews.I would be worried if I was you lot Because you nailed him to a cross.Or do you only quote the Bible when it suits you?
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I think a Palestinian Arab is more entitled to own Israel than some Russian or Polish Jew!!
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it saddens you does it you must be a victim you jew turd
They better stop using computers
many modern Pentium CPUs are designed in Israel. I think that these primative boycotters should stop using modern computers - it fits their dark ages mentality - perhaps the local council could offer some kind of trade in for a black wife-sack.
Israel can build anything they like in their own country
For all of you Jew_haters out there, please remember that the holiest days in the Christian calendar are merely the celebrations of the birth and death of the world's most famous Jew!
Isreal is a country that was sanctified by the UN, and as such, they have EVERY right to build anything they like in their own country. They also have the right to protect themselves from attacks from anywhere, just as we do. Israel has never had in their constitution a law that says that they want the death of anybody, yet many Muslim countries, as well as the Palestinians, DO have such laws.
Are we really promoting that sort of thing?
For all you Aussies out there, you can walk around in any city in Israel with a cold tinnie of beer in your hand, no problems. You can even eat pork or bacon in Israel.
Try doing that in Saudi!
Give me answers from a Jewish point of view
How many UN sanctions has israel broken?.Tell us what the jews did to you most famous jew Jesus?Is israel allowed to have nuclear weapons?Do jews think they are the chosen people and that a jews life is worth more than a Christian or Muslim?.How many jews died in WW 2?I would like to hear the answers to these questions from a jewish point of veiw
Unsuspecting diamond consumers finance the Zionist regime
Don't waste time debating with these Zionists - focus on undermining the structures that finance the Zioinst regime,the most important of which is Israel's enormous blood diamond trade. Diamonds account for over 30% of Israel's exports and these blood diamonds are sold to unsuspecting consumers worldwide as conflict free diamonds.
http://www.ipsc.ie/campaigns_diamond_boycott.php#val11
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11170.shtml
Arab kings need to be taken down for people's decent future
Why do all these arab countries need kings . They are nothing but parasites who spend and control all the wealth in those countries . They need to be taken down by the people then the people might have a decent future .
Jewish run U.S government
The U.S has vetoed a UN resolution to stop building settlements in the West Bank by Israel.
Just another reason to boycott a Jewish run U.S government Obama licks Jewish arse!!!!!
Voters, remove council members immediately!
Marrickville Council (as stupid as they maybe) should be grateful that the majority of the Jewish population in Australia is tolerant & more respectful when it comes to other religious groups These days, thankfully most Jews , including the ones here have broad shoulders when it come to thoughtless comments like this & just take pity on the people who make them However , maybe the council should view themselves as lucky, as should this suggestion been aimed at certain other minority groups the council chambers may have already been burned to the ground Besides do we all stop buying Australian & USA products because of our involvement in Afghanistan??? My suggestion is the council members be removed immediately by the good people of their electorate !!!!!
Israel is illegally invading Palestine
America has shown this week they do not want peace in the middle east by vetoing the UN resolution to stop Israel extending settlements in to the west bank and east Jerusalem
The vote was 14 to 1 for the resolution, is this the worlds idea of democracy?
As a Christian I have no loyalty to Israel or Palestine one way or the other, but I see this as provocation by Israel and the US.
What Israel is doing is illegally invading a country and Palestine is well with in its right to protect its territory and fire rockets in to Israel for its illegal invasion, just as the US did to Iraq for invading Kuwait you can't have it both ways Invasion is wrong Israel is wrong this is common sense.
The Jewish community should be grateful that Australia shows great tolerance and has not bulldozed every Synagogue in Australia to the ground and built Mosques in their place.
I feel pity for the Jewish community because they cant see what they are doing is wrong,this is because of one of two things they are brain washed ! or they are arrogant with no compassion for fellow man.I'm tipping the latter.
And no I don't hate Jews just their actions,I'm for the truth and what is right.What Israel and the US is doing is WRONG
Boycot Marrickville, hippie communists
Marrickville is the worst place in the country, Everyone here hates western civilization, leftists are the most intolerent, hateful, hypocrites there is. I just had to move away. Fuck Newtown, crime rates are going up, disgusting streets and allys, junkies are everywhere now, everyone is so smug they love the smell of their own fartts. Boycot Israel, fuck that... boycot marrickville hippie communists.
Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights to the Middle East
Israelis and Palestinians need to live side by side in peace and tolerance. Both have a right to exist. And both have a right historically to be in the Middle East. Anyone arguing for the annihilation of a race has no place in the human rights movement.
I've been working in human rights and environment issues for 18 years in Australia and overseas ... just to get any mis-conceptions out the way. Fascism and the targetting of a race has NO PLACE in human rights IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR CAUSE! As Ghandi said, 'the end never justifies the means' otherwise you become exactly like the people you make accusations of.
Stand up for your cause with truth and honesty and fairness and self-reflection. Not ideology!
This nonsense could ignite Middle Eastern wars here
What are you going to do next? Gather all the Jews in your area and .......... Hitler returns. You flamin morons. The Australian Government must put a stop to this nonsense or else you'll be responsible for igniting Middle Eastern wars here.
I feel sorry for the rate payers of this council
Reading through these comments I can only draw two obvious conclusions, either the Australian education system is badly failing or a couple of people are posting numerous comments under different names.
One question, have you ever felt Australia may fall victim to an Israeli terrorist act? Draw your own conclusions from your answer. (That means make your own minds up - oh wait on, patently you have no minds to make up in the first place).
Your bigoted views would be funny if they weren't so inane.
Personally, I feel sorry for the rate payers of this council. No doubt these councilors will be taking rate payer funded trips to the middle east before too long. I only hope they don't get kidnapped in the same way a friend of mine (John McCarthy) was!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCarthy_(journalist).
Sometimes I feel ashamed to be Australian - and reading some of your twisted comments on here is such a time.
Unconditional backing of Israel's terrorist acts towards Muslims
Tessa could you educate us and tell us which comments are not true ?
Have you ever felt Australia may fall victim to an Israeli terrorist act? well we already have when Israel stole Australian passports to commit murders overseas Australians were victims or were set up to make it look like Australians were involved in these illegal acts.
Now heres a Question for you, Have you ever felt that Australia would become a terrorist target because of our unconditional backing of Israel and its terrorist acts towards Muslims ?(that means make you own mind up)
Bigoted views Hey, is that because we don't agree that Israel has the right to do what they want when they want to who they want?
I feel ashamed that you are Australian too it's not just you Tessa!
It's going to hurt us a helluva lot more than Israel
Wonderful. It's going to cost nearly 4 million dollars to implement this. It's going to hurt us a helluva lot more than Israel. But I suppose belt tightening, austerity measures and increased taxes are a small price to pay for the elimination of Israel
It's going to cost a lot more in legal bills than $4m...
It's going to cost a lot more in legal bills than $4m...
Look at the companies on the list...
Firstly, Fulton Hogan.. a wholey Australian owned Company who purchased PRS in 2009 (50% from Shell and 50% from a company called Hanson)
Hanson is a global company with ties in israel.. so they are canceling a contract with a company that purchased 50% of a company from another company who has israelie ties.. If that's the logic, I should be banned as I believe I once watched a show about israel.. and have met a few Jews..
We still have our home keys and we are going back
We all should support Marrickville council for their bravery decision.
What so called Israel is totally unjust to humanity,,,
For who doesn't know and ignorant,, it's the most racist country in the world.
And for the other group of ignorants, Israel was FOUNDED in 1948, it was PALESTINE which is the south part of ancient SYRIA.
P.S My grand parents were terrorized and expelled from SAFAD in PALESTINE in MAY 1948 by Jewish
armed settlers coming from Europe.
We still have our home keys and we are going back.
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I say joy to the end of the Zionist entity. Happy and long have I told my children to be honor of slaughter the Zionist entity, Allah willing. We live happy in Marrickville our new home. I dream of the joy of days also when council vote for sharia law for all. Allah willing.
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Every one check out this comment above here is a typical Jew act.A Jew posing as a Muslim to cause trouble to turn people against Muslims nice try you Jewish pig.you will have to do better than that you must think people are stipid.
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For years I always thought people were stipid, finally someone agrees with me.
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Eric von Eric or jeoff or is that Mohammed No it's just a jew loving pig
Try your stupid boycotts, Israel is here to stay!
You people make me laugh. As much as you hate Jews (BTW I'm not a Jew or even a Jewish pig) they are not going anywhere. So flap your gums with your nonesense, try your stupid boycotts, Israel is here to stay! HAHAHA So funny.
A lot of Jews agree Israel should not exist
This is not about Jews this is about Israel there are a lot of Jews who agree Israel should not exist after all it goes against what the Torah teaches.Most of us just want the terrorist acts towards the Palestinians to stop when that happens I will stop my boycott.
Boycotts wern't stupid when when the Jewish community boycotted German goods in 1933 or were they ? but now I see you drive VW Hitlers car in Israel today who is stupid Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha so funny
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We should throw every jew out of Australia
Our governments turn a blind eye to Israeli atrocities
Marrickville council had a vote on the boycott last night the council were out voted so there will be no boycott.
If the vote had of been in favour of the boycott the council would have been sacked by the state Government.So much for democracy, it just go to show you how much our Governments turn a blind eye to the atrocities that Israel commits.
However People power can still win check every bar code on items you purchase and boycott bar codes starting with 729 this means the product is from Israel.
Declaring boycott of Israel gives justification for terrorism
Hello, I'm an Israeli. I read the comments for and against Israel. Some of the responses indicate a lack of knowledge. Israeli citizens are equal under the law. Claims of discrimination in various sectors of the population is like in different countries. The reason you wanted to boycott against Israel is not right. We do not occupy Palestinian land that was never a political entity or a state called Palestine. Our control areas in Judea and Samaria are the result of the war opened against us.
Until after the Second World War did not exist in the Middle East countries such as Israel, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan. They all got their independence after World War II. Until this period the Turks before them Empire ruled different. The last time was in Israel as a political entity, was two thousand years ago. It was the kingdom of Israel. All this can anyone who wants to check the history books.
During the nineteenth century there were few residents in Israel. You can read the book of Mark Twain's journey to the Holy Land in 1867. Zionism began, the Jews began to settle the Land of Israel. Arabs began to immigrate to Israel too and then began the conflict.
Since then, Jews are trying to build a country the Arabs trying to destroy.
We are constantly on the defensive. Constantly under the threat of terrorism.
Now try to rewrite history and claim that we are the aggressors.
The truth is that Israel is the only Jewish state. The Arabs have 22 countries and hundreds of millions of residents. Israel has only 7.5 million inhabitants.
We went back to Israel after 2,000 years of exile.
Islam opposes the existence of Jews and Israel and the Jews declared - a jihad.
To declare a boycott of Israel is something ridiculous and not right.
To declare a boycott of Israel is to give justification for terrorism.
oded
odedd1@walla.co.il
80% of Israel once owned by Palestinians, confiscated by Jews
80% of Israel formerly owned by Palestinians, confiscated by Jewish organisations
Hello Oded I am Australian. I read the comments for and against Israel also,some of the comments indicate a lack of knowledge I agree on this point,but the lack of knowledge seems to be with you.
You say"Israel citizens are equal under the law" 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs.The U.N,Conciliation Commission estimates that about 80% of the land in what is today Israel is property formerly owned by Palestinians that was confiscated by Jewish organisations like the Jewish Agency.Palestinians are forbidden by Israeli law from owning it. Of the land that may be legally sold in Israel 67% of it may not legally be sold to Arabs while none of it is barred from being sold to Jews.Thus, while Palestinians may be citizens of Israel ,they are second class citizens.Yet another feature of Israel that makes it an aparthied state is that it aims to seperate Jews and Arabs on a personal level, for example a Jew and a Arab cannot legally marry each other in Israel; such marriages , if performed outside the country are not reconized under Israeli law.
Section 7A(1) of the basic law of Israel explicitly prevents Israeli citizens-Arab or Jewish from using the "democratic" system of Israel elections to challange the inferior status of Arabs under law.Nothing equal about that Oded is there?
Then you go on to say"We do not occupy Palestinian land that was never a political entity or a state called Palestine".In the holy bible the Chronology of the Bible states in 1900BC Abraham comes to Palestine.So that would indicate that the Palestinian people inhibited the land well before the Jews arrived. The name "Palestine" comes from the Hebrew Philistine people.The Hebrew name is used in the Bible to denote the coastal region by the Philistines.
The Israelites defeated the Canaanites about 1125BC but found the struggle with the Philistines (Palestinians )more Difficult,superior in military organisation and the use of iron weapons,they severely defeated the Israelites about 1050BC.
In 1516 Palestine became a province of the ottoman Empire.
You also say that during the nineteenth century there were few residents in Israel.You can read Mark Twains book journey to the Holy Land in 1867.Oded there was no such place as Israel in 1867 it was the Ottoman province of Palestine and despite the steady arrival in Palestine of Jewish colonist after 1882 it is important to realize that not until a few weeks immediately preceding the establishment of Israel in the spring of 1948 was there ever anything other than a huge Arab majority. for example, the Jewish population in 1933 was 174,606 against a total of 1,033,314.
You then say until after the second world war countries like Israel, Syria ,Lebanon,Jordan did not exist which is true but the important thing to note is that the people were there except for the Jews they were in places like Poland, Germany, Russia, Hungaria and Argentina.Theodor Herzl a Hungarian born Jew is considered the father of Political Zionism.His 1896 pampflet,"The Jewish State" set fourth the frame work for establishing a Jewish nation.In his essay, Herzl indicated that ther were two territories being considered for the location of the Jewish State, Palestine and Argentina "shall we choose Palestine or Argentina" asked Herzl."We shall take what is given us".So even Herzl the father of Zionism acknowledges the existence of Palestine in 1896.
It looks like Palestine is repelling Foreign invaders and are freedom fighters to make themselves free from European Jews like Herzl who invaded there land.
Jewish people existed thousands of years before other nations
1. All Israeli citizens equal before the law. Can be elected to the Knesset, Israel's parliament. There are 15 members of Knesset who are not Jewish. That out of 120 MPs. Are there members of the Arab State Prlmte they are Jews? By the way, What number minority MPs in Australia have?
2. I do not think the UN Reconciliation Commission referred ownership of the land in Israel, I'll be happy If you contact me with an online source for this. In any case it is not true that 80% ownership of the lands by the Jews. there is state land. Over the years, Jews, including the Jewish Agency bought land around, what is called Palestine - Israel And that includes land in Jordan and Lebanon and Syria. They do not require these lands back. There is a law forbidding Jewish settlement in Syria, Jordan and other Arab countries.
3. Israel has religious institutions grooms. All members of various religious marry their tradition. It really is state law. But, if you're Jewish and want to marry a Muslim you register for a civil wedding. Muslim institutions also do not want to change that.
4. You mentioned the Knesset Basic Law, Article 7 A (1). Section has three provisions prohibiting political parties from elections if they:
(1) deny the existence of the state as a Jewish and democratic state;
(2) incitement to racism;
(3) supporting the armed struggle of an enemy state or terrorist organization against Israel.
Israel is a democracy defending itself. Arab countries expressed their desire to destroy it. Not possible to cooperate with this intention.
There are also Jewish parties are not allowed to be elected
5. Philistines are one of the peoples who lived in Israel throughout history. They identified with the Mediterranean and particularly with Crete. There is no connection between them and the Palestinians who came from Arab countries. All the peoples of Canaan (Israel) dissolved in history. Only the Jews that Israel was given to them by God, remained for 2000 years loyal to Israel and dreaming of the return to Zion (Jerusalem).
The name Palestine but not the name Philistines began to take place after the occupation of the Romans. He was adopted by the Turks (they are Muslims) and later became by British and Commonwealth Palestine - Israel. No use of the name would suggest an association of some kind of political entity as a state. There was never a country called Palestine!
6. As noted, during the 19th century there were no Turks ruled much residents. This Count can be read much history. Turks ruled almost did not invest in the country. Immigration of Jews to Israel began, then came the Arabs, Iraqis, Circassians, Sudanese, etc.
The Turks began to ban the entry of Jews to Israel in 1890 and Herzl proposed Argentina, the solution to the Jews who suffered persecution and killings in Eastern Europe.
The proposal has been dropped in 1900. Herzl's proposal came to save the Jews in Eastern Europe. It was not an ideology.
It is important to remember that already in 1890 in Israel there were for Jews established cities such as Neve Tzedek (Tel Aviv), neighborhoods of Jerusalem, Zichron Yaakov, Petach Tikva, Rishon Lezion, etc.
7. The first legal decision related to Israel and the Jews was by Lord Balfour - British foreign minister: "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".
This decision was adopted by the League of Nations in 1920 stated that the Jews will establish Palestine - Israel there national home land. The area of Palestine - Israel, also included Transjordan (Jordan).
8. I think Richard, you are trying to undermine Israel's legitimacy. Hatred boycott will not achieve anything. Jewish people existed thousands of years before Muslims or other nations in the world. Israel and the Jewish people always contribute to the world much more than their number relative. I'm sure we will continue to exist and contribute to the world.
All I have written about the historical facts can be verified online and reading historical literature!
oded
odedd1@walla.co.il
Palestinians have been there since before Abraham
Oded in May 2003 a decision in which Prime Minister Ariel(The war criminal)Sharon ordered the Ministry of Justice to draft Legislation denying automatic Israeli citizenship to children of mixed Israeli-Palestinian parents.(Jerusalem Post 27 may 2003).Is that your idea of all Israeli citizens equal? and how could you let this racist pig run your country?
You ask a question about Australian M.Ps in Australia we dont care in general what religion, ethnic background or sexual preferance our M.P's have they are judged on weather they can do the job or not but off the top of my head our Prime Minister was born in Wales and has no religion and lives with her boy friend and not married the opposition leader is a Catholic we have a MP Penny Wong who is from Asian decent and is a Lesbian we got a MP Bob Brown who is Homosexual don't know if he is religious (and don't care)we got a Muslin MP Ed Husic.We have a Aboriginal MP Ken Watt We even have a Jewish MP Michael Danby.I would like to think most Australians judge people on who they are not what they are, can you see why we get pissed off with Israel?
Did the Red Indian of North America have a Political entity no but they are the rightful owner of the land.Just the same as the Palestinian people are.
The Palestinian people are the Indigenous people to the land called Israel they have been there since before Abraham.In the Oxford Dictionary Philistine-a member of a people in ancient Palestine who are enemies of the Israelites. The same people you kicked out of there home land in 1948.Now who was the bright spark that said the Jews should live their?Peace had no chance.First you had the Skykes-picot Agreement of 1916 that Promised Palestine their Independence then the English did a double deal with the Balfour Declaration in 1917 it's like the English wanted you all to kill each other, typical Poms caused trouble in every country they set foot in,just like the Jews
Then you talk about Israel owned the land 2000 years ago is there anybody who can trace their family tree that far back I think not.Oded I noticed you did not answer the question on your family back ground I bet you are a foreign invader from Europe aren't you.
I have to laugh when you say i am trying to undermine
Israels legitimacy when it's you trying to undermine
Palestine's legitimacy.And I also laugh when you say
Jewish people existed before other nations have you heard about the Australian aboriginal who has been in Australia for at least 10,000 years not like the Jewish pissy 6,000 years.
Oded wake up and realize that Palestine should never have been given to the Jews your a religion not a race name one place the Jews have been where they didn't make arse holes out of themselves? and Palestine is no different.
No point in arguing about the age of the different peoples
Hello Colin. I'm not comfortable with the style and level of your response. Blame a person of a war crime or racism or trampling on their dignity and rights of others can not be the basis of good relations between people.
1. Marriage in the state of Israel possible between all religions. Israel has a law that limits the entry of Arabs who married an Israeli and ask to live in Israel.
This law is very legitimate considering the conflict that a war between us and the Arabs who seek to destroy and take over the State of Israel.
Many states have such laws. Australia also does not allow anyone to be a citizen and legitimate.
2. I'm glad that there is pluralism in Australia. I'm glad that anyone can be elected to parliament of Australia. This is true for Israel too. Israel has 15 non-Jewish members of parliament (out of 120 members.)
It is interesting to me that you mention the North American Indians. Why go far? Are Aboriginal genes have a political entity?
Also about the Philistines do not have to go to Oxford. Enough to read the Bible and see what happened to the Philistines. There is no connection between the Philistines and the Muslims or Arabs or anyone who calls himself the past several decades - Palestinian.
You can continue to distort the history. It does not make it true.
3. Sykes-Picot Agreement in 1916, was a secret agreement between Britain and France. It intended to divide the Middle East into spheres of influence. Arabs or Jews are not committed to this agreement. The British had promised the Palestinians nothing in connection with this Agreement. They promised to Hussein space protection. Hussein was an Arab from Saudi Arabia - again, nothing to do with the Philistines or Israel.
The British left Israel and the region without an agreement. War in 1948 was the first war for a long time been the territory of Israel. Seven Arab armies attacked the small Jewish community despite their top priority - justice and determination won. Israel became a state. If the Arabs were winning - the Jews were in the Mediterranean. No need to apologize about it, we won.
4. True Colin, my family returned from the diaspora, from Europe. Jews returned to their country from all over the world. Europe, from Arab countries - Morocco, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran and others. America, Asia and Australia. They returned to their country. No such thing in history. People returning to there homeland after 2000 years of a loose relationship with the state.
There is no point in arguing about the age of the different peoples. Sure that the Jews have existed thousands of years before the Muslims.
You write that you are Laughing but, I'm totally serious about your attempt to undermine Israel's legitimate, do boycott of Israel.
That, you give terrorism a tail wind.
I think that there is need to solve the Jewish-Arab conflict. This is a complex conflict. I'm not sure what the outcome but it should not be the result of hate, boycott in an attempt to destroy Israel.
Oded
Interested to hear your views on these questions
Got some questions for you Oded
1.Do Jews think they are the chosen people and Gentiles are below them?
2.Does Israel have a nuclear Bomb?
3.Where did the Rabbis get the black market organs from they were caught with in New York? Was it from
Palestinians they Murdered?
4.How many U.N resolutions has Israel broke?
5, Is it right for Israel to build settlements on occupied Palestinian land in the West Bank.
6. Were the majority of Bolsheviks Jewish? and how many people did they kill?
7.Is the Russian mafia mostly Jewish? and does Israel protect them from facing court over seas?
I would be interested to hear your views on these topics
Regards Brendan
Re: Interested to hear your views on these questions
Hello Brendan, I read your questions. I think some of them are not worth attention. I'll try to answer them all. I, of course not qualified to know all the answers.
I'd love to ask you some questions.
1.in the Bible God chose the nation of Israel (Jews are part of it), as the chosen people. throughout the Bible until today we could not please God. This does not mean we are bad, but we have to improve always. I'm not patronizing anyone.
Be the chosen people have more duties then rights. Judaism has a concept that says: "To be a light unto the nations. " This concept is hard to require in our world. Regarding this concept, we should be better than gentiles. Truth, there are good and bad Jews. So you have to treat us.
2. Perhaps yes, perhaps not. I do not know. I hope so.
3. Interesting Brendan, you took a wrong accusation and select to determine a fact and a fact based on the fact that in the wrong ...
Why didn't you mention the blood to make unleavened bread we consume?
The anti-Semitism is Celebrate. Blood libels are ripe fruit for you ,right Brendan?
4. I do not know how many UN resolutions Israel has violated. Have you checked how many UN resolutions each country in violation? Israel may also be a violation. However we must remember that because of the rivalry of the Arab countries with Israel there are many decisions that are not justifiable against Israel.
Australia is one of Israel's friends and Australia always consider its decisions not only against Israel.
5. Israel has the right to settle in Judea and Samaria - the West Bank. We have historic rights to Israel. These areas had no sovereignty of any state. That part which is controlled by Israel since 1967 was under Jordanian control in the years since 1948, the area occupied by the Jordanians in 1948 - and occupied later by Israel in 1967.
6. Shallow question. Not clear to me the question. Smelling of slander and racism.
7. I do not think the Russian mafia is largely by Jews. I do not think the Russian mafia is largely a Caucasian, I do not think the American Mafia is largely of Italians, I do not think the French mafia is largely of Arabs, etc.
Even that question reeks of racism.
Now Brendan, I have two questions for you:
1. Is Australia have criminals, organ traffickers, drug dealers, racists. Is Australia ready to give Aboriginal political rights?
2. Do you have something good to say about Jews and Israel?
Oded
Re: Interested to hear your views on these questions
1.Israel Shephardie Leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, Non Jews exist to serve Jews, just as live stock owner has the right to slaughter his animals so the Tulmud decrees to jews the right to slaughter Gentiles (Zohar ll 43a)
2.Documents show that Israel has nuclear weapons.
The documents in question are minutes of a meeting between members of two governments held in 1975.In the minutes ,the defence minister of South Africa,P.W.Botha,asked about the war headsand defence minister of IsraelShimon Peres offered the weapons in three sizes-referring to conventional weapons chemical and nuclear weapons.Shimon Peres later became the President of Israel.
Israel has an estimated 400-800 illegal nuclear weapons.
3.Dr Yehuda Hiss and the Israeli Military admitted to harvesting organs from Palestinians see Richards comments 30/4/2011 1:03am
4.The number of United Nation Security council Resolutions that Israel have broken is 225 and counting, more than any other country on earth.
5.The United Nation Security Council Resolution 446 determined "that the policy and practice of Israel establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity.
6.Central Committee of the Bolshervik Party was made as follows
Bronstein(Trotsky)-Jewish
Apfelbaum(Zinorief)-Jewish
Lourie(Larine)-Jewish
Ouritski-Jewish
Volodarski-Jewish
Rosenfelt(Kamanef)-Jewish
Smidouitch-Jewish
Sverdolf(Yanke)-Jewish
Nakhamkes(Steklof)-Jewish
Ulyanov(Lenin)-Russian
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Sir Winston Churchill writing in the illustrated Sunday Herald of 8 Feb 1920 on the Jewish role in the Bolshevik coup "with the exception of Lenin,the majority of leading figures are Jewish.More over the principal inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders.
Genrikh Yagoda the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th century murdered 10 million people.
66 million not all but most were Christian-The mass death was the largest "Holocaust" in modern history-but tottaly unknown by most American,British and Western Europeans.
7.The C.I.A commented that there is no "major Russian Mob figure that does not carry an Israeli Passport"May/June 2006 The Barnes Review.
Israel will not deport criminals over seas for court cases on Child prostitution rings ,Murderers or Drug dealers because they are Jewish
Thanking all Jews for my Easter Holidays
I would like to thank all the Jews for my Easter Holidays, lets face it if they didn't kill Jesus the son of god we would have to work today
To say Jews killed Jesus is an attempt to defame the Jews
William, Jews did not killed Jesus. Pope also Stated that the Jews did not killed Jesus. Jesus was a Jew and therefore all Christians are Jews too. Say that the Jews killed Jesus is an attempt to defame the Jews.
If telling the truth is defaming the Jews then so be it
Oded Jesus was king of the Jews and the founder of Christianity,so all you Jews should follow your king and turn Christians too Just like Herzl son did.
Oded this is what is said in the New Testament Mathew 27(20)The chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask Pilate to set Barabbas free and have Jesus put to death.(21)But Pilate asked the crowd "which one of these two do you want me to set free for you?" "Barabbas!"They answered. (22)"what shall i do with Jesus called the Messiah?"Pilate asked them.
"crucify him!"they all answered.
(23)But Pilate asked "What crime has he Committed?"
Then they started at the top of their voices:"Crucify him!"
{24)When Pilate saw it was no use to go on,but that a riot might break out,he took some water,washed his hands in front of the crowd,and said"I am not responsible for the death of this man!this is your doing!"
(25)the whole crowd answered "Let the responsibility for his death fall on us and on our children!"
Mark Luke and John all say the same thing.So as you see from this historical FACT the Jews killed Jesus the son of God.The jews like Oded are trying to rewrite history.
Oded the Pope does not represent all Christians so who cares what he says the Bible is what we believe to be the truth, so if telling the truth is defaming the Jews then so be it.
Oded I would be interested to hear you twisted version of what happened that day.
Jesus did forgive you so I forgive you too.Thanks for the Easter Holiday Oded
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I notice the Jews have never lived in peace since they killed Jesus the son of God is this just coincidence or is it karma?????
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The former head of Abu Kabir Forensic Institute in Israel Dr Yehuda Hiss was interviewed in 2000, Israel's channel 2 TV aired parts of the interview in December 2009.
"We started to harvest corneas"Hiss said'what ever was done was highly informal.No permission was asked from the families.We glued eye lids shut."Hiss added "We wouldn't take corneas from families we knew would open the eyelids,"In addition to corneas ,skin,heart valves,and bones were taken from bodies of Palestinians and foreign workers without permission from relitives.
Hiss also said skin was taken from the backs of dead Palestinians and families of the dead never discovered the theft because they did not examine the bodies before burial.Muslim custom dictates that the deceased be burried as soon as possible after death,avoiding the need to embalming or otherwise disturbing the body.
After the interview aired on television,the Israeli Military admitted the macabre practice.
Palestinians have feared for many years that Israeli occupation forces in the West Bank and Gaza have targeted them for organ harvest.
Dr Hiss still works at the Abu Kabir Forensic Institute Israel today!
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Shalom. It's another of the classic blood libels. To take it fabricated information, add lies and spreading it. Anyone who reads also takes the information fabricated half-truths and lies put his own inserts and distributes it as well.
This is the procedure that existed in Israel in 1988-1998. The procedure was legal. Taking skin from dead for transplant in the case of burns is legal. Done in all countries. Corneas also taking from dead people is legal. Obtain the approval of the families. There were cases that did not receive approval.
Dr. Hiss admitted that sometimes he did not ask permission of families. That's why he stopped being director of the Forensic institute .
Now begins the blood libel. This is not a dead Palestinian. This is the dead who came to the Institute Ahpatlogy. Jews and Muslims.
In fact the affair was revealed when he came to the Forensic Institute an IDF soldier who died. at his funeral his parents discovered that he had no corneas. It became clear that corneas were taken away without their consent.
Then came Richard, I think he does not want the best for Israel, It takes an article from Web site that does not want the good for Israel. Adds that the Israelis admit that they took Palestinians to take their organs and you have a blood libel.
Dear Australians, I really love your country but, let me say that people like Richard are destroying your good name.
Oded
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Wow this post has had more reads than any other post in Indymedia history keep spreading the word good work
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shalom. Reading comments on this post is apparent that the level of knowledge and knowing of the reactants with Israel and Jews is not high.
Andrew, Jews rule the world?!
Did you know that the world has about 15 million Jews. If they rule the world seems that the world consists of lots of stupid and some Jews infinitely wise.
Since you're not Jewish you can classify yourself with others ...
Jews do not rule the world!
Relative to their size they affect more but it's good things and not described as surreal post here everyone was denouncing the Jews or the State of Israel and spreading lies like Richard and others.
I invite each of you to visit Israel and see the country's achievements during the past 150 years. All achievements are not at the expense of the Arabs but, although they attacked us for years and tried to sabotage the establishment of the state.
Despite having 22 countries and a larger area the size of Australia. Full of oil and other minerals - all they want is the destruction of Israel. Good for them to begin to build their countries instead of destroying other's countries. I'm not just talking about Israel. I'm talking about Europe and many places like Australia.
A bit about religion and those who came before whom - the Jews and the children of Israel from ancient religions of the world. Even before there were Christians (Jesus lived and died a Jew). Muslims did not exist not even form an idea (Muhammad wanted to become Jews, but was not accepted, so he fought against the Jews).
At the time of Jesus, Israel was already twice and twice lost the state forces invaded the country. Only two thousand years later we had set up our country again.
Many writers in this post would want Israel destroyed. Israel is not going to be destroyed soon.
If it is destroyed it will stand up again like before.
The Jewish people is eternal!