Ivan Milat files application for a review to the High Court: Sydney Indymedia exclusive

Ivan Milat continues to state that he is innocent and has been framed in the matter of the Backpacker Murders. He says that he cut off his finger due to refusal of access to necessary law books and a computer to type up his application for a review, not to get attention or to make an escape attempt.

Ivan Milat says: "The High Court informed me they received my application on 18th December 2009 and accepted it. It has been filed and I am applicant No. 356 of 2009. I've sent off the necessary documents to the Respondent in my matter - the Supreme Court."

Recently a case meeting was held where Ivan Milat was told that it is recommended he continue to be confined in the HRMU. When he asked why, and what he was doing wrong within the HRMU, he was told he was doing nothing wrong, is co-operative and not a problem. It seems there would be public outrage if he were moved, even though he is a model prisoner who is always polite.

Hopefully an article entitled "Brian Raven: The Evidence" will once again be available for those who would like to read the story from the viewpoint of possible framing of an innocent person and corruption.

Ivan Milat has been unwell and has been transported to both Goulburn and Sydney hospitals for scans. The result of these scans is as yet unknown. He is determined to prove his innocence before he dies.

Police do not seem to be actively looking for the person whose DNA was found under the fingernails of the victims. It has been established that the DNA, which is most likely that of the killer, does not match Ivan Milat or any member of his family. It does not match any of the other victims of the murders.

Interestingly, the other likely suspect, who we will call "WMK" and who lives in the Illawarra, looks uncannily like Ivan Milat. This person was investigated at length after his two children, interviewed separately by police, stated that WMK took them during access visits on car trips during which he would pick up hitch hikers. The children identified several different accents of the victims including English and Welsh. The children witnessed the killings of these hitch hikers in a forest which they described as being 'sandy'. They were able to describe clothing and backpacks, one of which had the word Abracadabra written all over it. They said that during the murders there were several other people present and participating, both women and men.

One of the young women murdered by WMK was taken to a cafe where they all had a meal. During the meal she drew a picture of a horse for one of the children on a serviette. It would be interesting to know if any of the murdered backpackers liked to draw horses.

The children described the method of killing in the backpacker murders as frenzied stabbing attacks and shootings. They did so to their counsellors at Centacare before these details were released in the media.

I have the full details of the statements of these children and will publish them at a later date.

When police suddenly stopped investigating this suspect, journalist Brett Martin, a past Walkley Award recipient, interviewed the children and tape recorded their testimony.

It is believed that WMK was living in Warilla with his first wife in 1979 when two girls, who were hitchhiking, went missing. I have a large number of documents that I will be reading through in coming weeks to verify this. They consist of the statements of WMK's first wife to various courts. The extreme violence inflicted on WMK's first wife and sons is indicative of someone who is very dangerous.

WMK was later convicted of paedophile offences relating to his second two children. During the trial, one of the children spoke up in court about the murders. This did not relate to the charges he was facing, but made the front pages of the Illawarra Mercury in May 1994.

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The Evidence by Brian Raven

Terror on the Hume Highway

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Horrifying that killer still loose, maybe innocent man jailed

I just can't understand why the police don't re-investigate. It is horrifying to think that a serial killer is still on the loose and that a possibly innocent man is in gaol.

Ivan's statement of evidence is logical and explains a lot

The media only presents one side of the story, Ivan statement of evidence is logical and explains a lot of what is unknown and under reported, in the mans own words.
I do not understand why he is not allowed legal support to appeal his coviction. He does appear to believe that he is innocent and most guilty people dont go around self harming to support their claims. He is clearly desperate for help. This whole saga is reminisent of the case of Gerry Conlon, framed by the British Police for the London terrorist bombings. They got it wrong and they're supposed to be the best, who's to say that Ivan is not also in the same predicament. We pay our taxes for nothing if the backpacker murderer/s walk free and an innocent man lives behind bars, how atrocious.

I would really be advising the police to re-investigate

I would really be advising the police to re-investigate the whole scene, again no one would be really feeling safe with a serial killer out on the streets of australia, he should be thrown into gaol for life in-prisonment, this is just a disgrace.

Re: bacpacker killer/s and recent event...

i do not know if ivan milat is innocent or not but on the balance of propabilities ( all of the real evidence ) he likely is and the back packer killers are still out there and must be an organised operation. this is just a recent experience in a national park in blue mountains and it was weird enough to write about - a friend and myself were walking along a road in blue mountains national park when a silver/grey 4 wheeldrive drive drove past us very slowly and then about 5 minutes later came back up the road. the driver, a tall man ( his head reaching the roof of the vehicle )with blond brown hair and large george negus type mostache, fair skin and dark blue eyes - i never forget a face- stopping the vehicle ahead of us then reversing the vehicle and stopping next to me, asking me quite concerned several times if we wanted a lift. (we had only gone for a short 45 minute bushwalk along the road and were definitely not hitchiking.) I also noticed a young woman sitting smiling at me from the front passenger seat and young boy in the backseat as well and what was particularly weird is that the driver opened the childs tinted back window the same time he opened his window as if to show us that he had a child in the car and he was legitimately motivated.
my friend also thought it strange behaviour and we began joking that we wanted the excercise and thanks but no thanks.then he thankfully left and we both immediately thought of ivan milat! (and this led me to search the internet today.)
we got to our car in the car park about 15 minutes later the silver 4wd was still around now parked with the woman and child but the driver was nowhere to be seen.the woman turned to look at me again and this time she appeared very angry. the whole situation just seemed so weird.we left in our car straight away after that. i guess the moral of the story is do not ever go alone bushwalking in national parks and definetely refuse lifts from strangers no matter how nice they seem. trust your gut instincts.if these psycho killers are still out there they have no scruples.

If these psycho killers are still about they have no scruples

i do not know if ivan milat is innocent or not but on the balance of propabilities ( all of the real evidence ) he likely is and the back packer killers are still out there and must be an organised operation. this is just a recent experience in a national park in blue mountains and it was weird enough to write about - a friend and myself were walking along a road in blue mountains national park when a silver/grey 4 wheeldrive drive drove past us very slowly and then about 5 minutes later came back up the road. the driver, a tall man ( his head reaching the roof of the vehicle )with blond brown hair and large george negus type mostache, fair skin and dark blue eyes - i never forget a face- stopping the vehicle ahead of us then reversing the vehicle and stopping next to me, asking me quite concerned several times if we wanted a lift. (we had only gone for a short 45 minute bushwalk along the road and were definitely not hitchiking.) I also noticed a young woman sitting smiling at me from the front passenger seat and young boy in the backseat as well and what was particularly weird is that the driver opened the childs tinted back window the same time he opened his window as if to show us that he had a child in the car and he was legitimately motivated.
my friend also thought it strange behaviour and we began joking that we wanted the excercise and thanks but no thanks.then he thankfully left and we both immediately thought of ivan milat! (and this led me to search the internet today.)
we got to our car in the car park about 15 minutes later the silver 4wd was still around now parked with the woman and child but the driver was nowhere to be seen.the woman turned to look at me again and this time she appeared very angry. the whole situation just seemed so weird.we left in our car straight away after that. i guess the moral of the story is do not ever go alone bushwalking in national parks and definetely refuse lifts from strangers no matter how nice they seem. trust your gut instincts.if these psycho killers are still out there they have no scruples.

There certainly appears to be a lack of evidence against Ivan

The whole Ivan Milat case is extremely baffling. There certainly appears to be a lack of evidence against Ivan - I can't understand how the police came to the conclusion he was the backpacker murderer.

I've even spoken to one of his defense lawyers. When a lawyer represents someone in court, they have a pretty good idea if the person is innocent or guilty of the charges brought against them. I was talking to his lawyer at a BBQ, off the record, he told me Ivan is not the killer.

So, if your car breaks down anywhere near Belanglo Forest, be concerned.

Why is he always pictured laughing or smiling?

One thing that is extremely annoying about this man, whether he is the sole perpretrator, or whether there are accomplices still on the loose, is that he is always pictured laughing or smiling?
Now, most people if they had been framed for serial murder would be taking the whole situation a bit more seriously and would be above all things furious, angry at police and the cjs and fighting for their freedom so that the truth would be revealed and justice served. Something in his psychological make up seems amiss, based on just that behaviour alone.

A string of fabricated "evidence" - By Ivan Robert Milat

Statement of Evidence

By Ivan Robert Milat

Statement of Innocence by Ivan Milat
May 15, 1998 - Two Years After Show Trial.

That morning of my arrest and the circumstances the police used to justify it. Paul Onions (crown witness} was given 13 photos to look at and he chose me. He had no choice - I was the only one with the blackhair and the type of moustache, similar to the description he gave to police after he was robbed at gunpoint near the Belanglo Forest in 1990. He looks at photos and then writes out a statement to back up his description.

It was unreal. It was all there, my pepper and salt hair, colour of eyes, etc. I had to agree it was my photo he looked at in 1994, as it was one from 1990. They (police) changed the 1990 description Onions originally gave in Bowral at the police station. At that interview he said his attacker was 6 foot tall, black hair, Merv Hughes moustache aged mid thirties(The original statement Onions made to the police has never surfaced). The eyes of his attacker went from wearing dark sub-glasses to narrow squint eyes. He made the original statement to police 20 minutes after his attack. Onions had been in his assailant's car for over an hour. His first description would be accurate.

It was not until Onions returned to Australia in 1994 that the matter of Yugoslav parents and my divorce were mentioned as part of conversation with Onions robber. I complained that there were no other people in the 13 photos shown to Onions that resembled me in the photo lineup of 1994. The police answer to that was "the description given by witness Onions was sufficient."

They (the Police) found a shirt at mum's place and said it was stolen from Onions. My wife who had left me in 1987 came to court to say she had bought it at K Mart. It was a plain shirt similar to the type road workers use. My wife insisted it was my shirt as I always wore that type of shirt. I can't understand why on that day only, they photographed that shirt and nothing else. MY wife said "yes, that is Ivan's shirt", at the trial. But the police during 1994 visited Onions in the UK and Onions claimed it was his.

Onion's robber drove a vehicle with a special feature in the placement of the spare wheel. Onions and another eyewitness to the robbery corroborated each other on the outstanding feature of the vehicle, the spare wheel, but they were both wrong when it was proved to the court that the wheel on my vehicle could not have been seen by them. This "mistake" was glossed over by the Crown. The judge told the jury it was hard to see how such a mistake could be made, but they should consider the matter. The judge went on to say that they could consider another scenario. " I think the accused stole or somehow got another vehicle of similar make and had the extras the two witnesses had described.

Who did I borrow or steal the vehicle from? A vehicle other than my own was not part of the case. The charges against me were totally circumstantial. The police fitted together a case which was impossible for me to defend. They fitted the crimes to times when I was away from work or weekends. There was much argument on this matter of dates. And because the crimes had been committed 6 years before - I defy anyone to have total recall of their whereabouts at any given time.

The crown then decided on a second scenario, now they said that a group of people were involved in the crimes. They had no idea and were making a circumstantial case on a circumstantial case. What a turn-up! How can you beat a system like that? They were now saying I was part of a group. I have never seen or heard of the police following up investigations into this wild theory put before the court.

There was property at my place including a tent. I knew nothing about it. Then there was a camera - Paul Onions for the crown swore black and blue that the camera was his. I tried to explain that the camera belonged to my sister Shirley who shared the house with me. Then, OOPS! It is discovered that the camera was not manufactured until 1991. Onions had been robbed in 1990. This "small" matter no problem for the crown, they then claimed the camera could have belonged to one of the UK victims.

The tent, was owned by my brother Dick. The tent was doctored to make believe that the tent belonged to a UK victim. There was much argument argument about this tent and identifying marks. When that tent came to light Dick was able to prove where he had bought it. I often wonder why the media never took this issue up in their reporting of the case. I expect the police don't give out many parking tickets to reporters.

I had come to believe in the science of DNA. They had DNA from both the UK female victims. Police took blood and hair samples from me. Human hair found clasped in the hand of one of the UK girls - there was no match with me. No wonder I was confident going into the trial. The car described by the two witnesses did not match mine + the DNA. A week before the matter of the DNA came into the trial the crown came up with a new report on the DNA. It was from the lab that did the tests saying the tests could be flawed. I still believe The first report to be the true one. I insisted that the tests be done again. The crown said that it was not possible - the hairs gone-missing-destroyed during the tests.

What a joke. The so called expert said the samples could have been contaminated. It could not be tested again. I was not happy with my defence counsel. They were way out their depth with the science evidence. Plastic tape used to bind the victims were found at the crime scene. Those ties had no markings on them. At my home the police took similar tapes as evidence. The tapes had markings on them. All of a sudden the tapes from the crime scene had similar markings on them. An expert on the tapes gave evidence that the tapes allegedly found at the crime scene were sold exclusively to organisations like the Roads and Traffic Authority - my employer.

No matter what. I will always profess my innocence.

Best regards Ivan

In effect Ivan Milat has been cleared by the DNA evidence

Police could re-open Belanglo case

Milat lodges 474 Appeal

July 19th, 2005

"Alice Smith"

The Sunday Telegraph (18/7/05) reports that police are considering reopening the Backpacker Murders case.

Friends of Ivan Milat say this would be a good idea, given that there is so little to link Ivan to the case and given the alleged planting of evidence at Ivan's home and the original description of Paul Onions' attacker as a man of some six feet tall driving a car with a spare wheel attached to the back having been conveniently 'lost' by Bowral police and replaced with a new description fitting Ivan Milat, following Paul Onions being shown photos of him by police.

Could it be a co-incidence that the sudden interest by the media in the case has been manipulated by persons behind the scenes keen to see Ivan's latest appeal, a 474 Appeal for a judicial review, quashed as soon as possible?

Police could start by trying to find the perpetrator whose DNA was found under the fingernails of one of the victims. This DNA is not linked to Ivan Milat or any member of his family. This fact is conveniently left out of media reports of the case. In effect Ivan Milat has been cleared by the DNA evidence. As for him attempting to escape from gaol, this has never been proven in court. Ivan says he did not make any escape plans and that swallowing objects was not an attempt to be taken to an outside hospital but to draw attention to the fact that he was receiving no assistance with preparation of his appeal.

Around the time of the attack on Paul Onions, a young man fled from a four wheel drive south of the Belanglo turn off. The vehicle had stopped , and he saw 3 men and a woman emerge from the bush. They were armed and coming toward him. He escapes and records the details to Bowral police. Task Force Air later dismiss his evidence as not being relevant to their backpacker inquiries. There is clear evidence that the police were reluctant to embrace the group killer theory. Was Paul Onions a victim of the group and fortunate to escape the tragedy of what had happened to the other travelers?

However, this attack is the first inkling placing a woman at the crime scenes. It does go some way to explain the sexual nature inflicted upon some of the victims. Female jewelry had disappeared from the victims. Only commonplace camping items were discovered in later police searches. These items appeared to be new and unused and Ivan Milat says they were planted on him.

Candace Sutton from the Sun-Herald reported concerning a strange blonde man who picked up a male hitchhiker in a 4wd. In the rear of that vehicle were chainsaws and other forestry type tools. There were assorted knives. The man fled from the vehicle when the driver began talking about "bodies in the forest" just after passing the Belanglo turn off. The driver had slowed down allowing the fellow to jump from the vehicle.

Task Force Air had a swag of information from drug raids in the local Sutton Forest and general Southern Highlands areas. The police were well briefed on the Who's Who of the local villains.

Police focused initially on the local area when forensics proved what sort of weapons had been used. As early as 1993, the investigation was confining the search to the Southern Highlands. This line of attack changed after the assault on Paul Onions, and the single theory perpetrator took hold. Anything outside that scenario was dismissed. The police had fixed a rough pattern to the movements of the backpackers. This fixation was flawed. It did not leave open the finding of further information on backpackers movements after leaving Sydney.

An 18 year old's body was found in a local forest area during 1992. He was from Bathurst, NSW. It could easily have been assumed that this victim was to be a part of the backpacker case investigation. Task Force Air said no. To place this victim with the others would have meant problems of defining the patterns of the murders. The police did not mention this case in their original brief, although the killing was similar to those at Belanglo.

Bicycle riders Stephen Mangan and Michael Jones found dumped property belonging to the backpacker Gibson. A Ricoh camera was passed on to police on 31st December, 1989. Backpacks belonging to Gibson and his partner were later found by a motorist and passed on to police.

The significance of these findings was closely similar to the finding at Bright, Victoria. The items were discarded to throw any later investigations away from the Southern Highlands.

The crown attempted to prove that Ivan Milat had been working in the Dural-Galston Gorge area and that he had the opportunity to place the items there. But then, there was the problem of the Items discovered at Bright. All of the items were dumped from the police case. The Casula-Liverpool link to the killers was entrenched in the police mind set, that they refused to take into account the possibility they were mistaken. Vital clues and witnesses were being dismissed.

If police did investigate properly they would find a cesspit of lies cooked up by the prosecution which conveniently ignored the facts that:

1. The Bennetton top allegedly taken from one of the
victims was purchased from a Sydney retail outlet.
This evidence was known to both the crown and the
defence.

2. Property belonging to Simone Schmidl were taken
from the home of a Ms Murphy at Guildford.

3. Property belonging to Simone Schmidl was found at
Bright, Victoria. Some of these items were later found
at the home of Ivan Milat. How they got there should
be a matter for the Police Integrity Commission.

4. The blue day pack allegedly belonging to Simone
Schmidl discovered at Walter Milat's home could not
have belonged to her. A family photo of the backpack
at Walter's home was taken prior to Simone's death.

5. Arresting detectives were captured by the
television news carrying fully formed cartons into the
Milat home.

6. Ivan and Richard Milat explained to police the
origin of some items at both their homes. Backpacks
held up in court as 'evidence' appeared to be new and
unused. Statements that those brands could only be
purchased in Europe were fabrications.

7. Simone Schmidl's mother was not examined nor a
statement taken from her regarding certain items that
she had earlier identified and were found in Victoria.

8. The incompetent handling of the DNA evidence was
detrimental to the defence case. No description was
led as to the colour of the hairs found in the hand of
one of the victims. Recent re-examination of the DNA
evidence has cleared Ivan Milat and all members of his
family. This should be making headlines - but still
Ivan Milat remains incarcerated.

9. The loss of Paul Onions' original statement coupled
with the original Joanne Berry statement raises
suspicions. These statements were made at separate
police stations. Neither the police nor the witnesses
retained a copy of the original staements. This is
suggestive that there was hiding or destruction of
these documents. In his original statement Paul Onions
had described a man around six feet tall with a spare
wheel mounted on the back of his car. This does not fit
the description of Ivan Milat at all.

10. To depict sightings by credible witnesses as false was
designed to undermine and mislead the evidence that
supported a different pattern to the police theory.

11. The police failed to video record the search of
the Milat residences. This reflects on the integrity
of the police searches.

12. If the second statement by Paul Onions was so
credible, why was Ivan Milat not arrested sooner?

13. Only one item of evidence was produced with a
fingerprint on it. For the police and crown to suggest
that Ivan wiped all of the items free of prints or
wore latex gloves was ludicrous considering the amount
of property concerned.

14. Forensic evidence showed neither the Bowie knife
or the blunt sword found at Ivan's mother's place
could have been used in the attacks on the victims. Of
all the guns seized from Milat family members not one
of them was ever fired in Belanglo Forest. Ivan Milat
maintains a Ruger rifle part was planted in his home
and recent sackings of corrupt police suggest they
were indeed capable of such acts.

15. A vital witness, Jock Pittiway, gave Alex Milat a
backpack. PIttiway also gave a trailer load of items
to Richard Milat. Pittiway should have been
investigated by police.

Ivan Milat was not the only suspect in this case. There were other suspects, in particular one from Wollongong of European origin whose children
saw him doing suspicious things. The man from Wollongong had a long history of violence against women and many criminal convictions including convictions for paedophilia. He was obsessed with guns and had been in the armed forces overseas. He looks not unlike Ivan Milat in appearance and is of similar build. This particular suspect's car was seized by Task Force Air and human bloodstains were found in the back. If police really want to reopen the case they could start by comparing his DNA with that found under the victim's fingernails.

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DNA under victim's fingernails did not match Ivan Milat

Milat's family were officially informed that the DNA did not match Ivan Milat

Belanglo Murderer DNA Found on Recent Murder Victim
2006/05/18 - 22:02

Parramatta police are hushing up news that DNA matching that found under the fingernails of one of the Belanglo Forest murder victims has been found on a body recently discovered in bushland.
The difficult testing on the Belanglo DNA in England was only completed two years ago due to advances in technology.

Ivan Milat's family were officially informed that the DNA did not match Ivan Milat or any member of his family, nor did the DNA match any of the known victims. Police explained this by pointing out that the judge in his summing up of the case against Ivan Milat stated that there was no way one person committed these murders alone, and that the murders had a ritual-satanic aspect which would suggest a group of people being involved.

Detective Sergeant Michael Ashwood today led a raid on the late Mrs Milat's Guildford home where one of the Milat brothers, who is handicapped, still lives. Mrs Milat died some time ago. Police were allegedly looking for any weapons, clothing or other objects related to the recent discovery of a woman's body in a shallow grave, a fact which has not been reported in the mainstream media. This murder happened in about 2004, ten years after Ivan Milat was jailed so he certainly was not involved.

A Parramatta detective has admitted to one of the Milat brothers that photos are in the possession of police of two of the Belanglo murder victims visiting an area shortly before their abductions which does not fit the scenario of Ivan Milat picking up victims on the Hume Highway in N.S.W. These photos were kept out of the evidence during the trial deliberately because they confirmed sightings of the girls by railway employees in Albury and confirmed the finding of Simone Schmidl's belongings near the highway in Victoria, where Ivan Milat could not have been, due to the fact that his employer's records placed him at work during that time.

It is hoped that the DNA will match a known criminal whose DNA has been obtained. Useful samples of the DNA of the other Belanglo Murders suspect are held by his ex partner in the form of old type postage stamps on letters he wrote to her, one being a letter from prison denying that he sexually assaulted two children aged four and five years.

Picture: Gabor Neugebauer, whose leather jacket and watch were found in the possession of a policeman who committed suicide after harassing the wife and children of a second backpacker murders suspect, the details of whom have been kept secret even though the ex partner of the suspect gave four hours of evidence into the Royal Commmission into Police Corruption.. The jacket and watch were said by his fiancee to have been obtained by him before the bodies in the forest were discovered. http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/node/37040

Anyone 100% guilty would not be acting like Ivan has in jail

Either all of the witnesses against WMK are suffering from a mass delusion or this WMK is in fact responsible for inflicting damage upon the lives of these innocent people as he is accused of doing.
Even non policing persons that are capable of reading and writing English can clearly see that this person is in some way connected to terrible crimes.
Children of that age would have no reason to lie, not only that but they are seperate families and ex spouses describing the same behaviour and like events.
A person who is 100 per cent guilty would not be acting the way Ivan has since he went to gaol.
He obviously believes that he is innocent and has been convicted in the place of others and will keep protesting for the rest of his life.
Are the Skaf brothers or the Murphy brothers doing the same thing?

Maybe authorities themselves are involved

it is an amazing story. If it is true that DNA has been found on multiple victims that does not match Ivan Milat it is a crime that the police does not investigate further. I can't image why the police would want to frame Ivan Milat other than to solve the case. But if they framed him this is a major crime and it means the killer(s) is/are still out there. Hown many more people have been reported missing since then? I would think it would be pretty easy to set up a trap for killers still out there. Clearly they do not want to do that. Maybe authorities themselves are involved. In cases in Europe there also has been speculation people at high places are involved. They are usually the people who love power. In the Netherlands there was a judge who ordered a crook to abduct girls and he used them for SM games and they were killed. What a world we live in. Many people in places of power are the most miserable and horrible people on this planet. Keep on investigating people.

No DNA evidence of any Milat involvement

Could it be that his brother Alex actually witnessed the group of persons involved in the ritual murders of these back packers in two cars going into belangalo forest with two of the victims?Would this make the Milats instant targets?
Because he would have then seen the murderers responsible right?
Any body believing the bullshit spun by self interested ex NSW politicians would be likely to be media brainwashed and uncapable of any critical thinking. There is no DNA evidence that he or any member of his family are remotely involved in these murders.
Guess what that should mean, the goddamn man is innocent, how the hell could he have raped and killed anyone in cold blood and not left any of his DNA at the scene?
Another person was also suspected involved from other eyewitness testimony of namely his children who also testify of his picking up hitchikers,sexually assaulting them with other persons involved and murdering them in forests.
Just kids with an overactive imagination?
But then what does the general public know? What right do we, the accused and the victims have to live in a just free and safe world?
Go to hell all you cowards liars thieves and murderers and may God Almighty be waiting for you to give you your rewards. No one has the right to do that to another.

A judge in Holland was involved in these sick crimes

What! Paid public servant - a judge - in Holland was involved in these sick crimes you have described!
What kind of a decripit miserable hypocrit without the faintest conscience would sit as a judge over the lives of members of society condemned as criminals responsible when they themselves are involved in criminal activities worse than the murderers they condemn! It is something tottally beyond comprehension and these people deserve the greatest condemnation using their high status and position in life to destroy lives. Lawlessness.

Who is this person of interest that was living in Warilla?

I knew the two girls who dissapeared from Warilla I was nearly a victim myself, before they went missing except I ran away.I Was interviewed by the police, why has this evidence not been told to the public? For thirty four years I have been living with the what if's? I would like to know who this person of interest is that was living in Warilla.

He doesn't mean jack shit to them, nor do we

" a lawyer at a barbeque told me off the record that Ivan wasn't the killer!"
well then doesnt that make all of us feel so much better and safer to know we live in a BULL**** country with BULL**** justice systems serving only to protect the BULL**** SCUM OF THE EARTH that kill innocent people and countless others that have never been found. How can any thinking and feeling person not be incenced as this may be a totally innocent man dying in prison professing he did not kill these people and has no legal recourse to do anything about it. What of the justice to those that died?
What are politicians, people in authority and people WE PAY OUR TAXES TO doing about this man and his rights ? He doesn't mean jack shit to them, nor do we because people's this could have been anyone of us in the murdered and the accused shoes.
We are not to far away from this travesty, it happened and may still be happening in our own backyards and we think ourselves proud to be australians?
What a total joke.
They are more worried about passing laws to stop people blogging anonymous journalism independant of the media control.God forbid independant discussion and freedom of speech shines a light into their darkened minds..

Milat and his ungranted appeals

This subject stirs up a lot of negative emotions, we should be allowed to express that anger, it is not causing harm to anyone and is a result of the fact that these and possibly many more people who have gone missing have lost there lives uneccesarily. It is senseless increduluos evil with no point or purpose other than to glorify a sickness a vanity a gross perversion that caused these deaths. Why didnt the murder/s just end their own miserable existences instead of doing these terrible atrocities, for what purpose did they serve? Is this world a better place now because these lives were taken? How can any human being carry out these calculated horrors and just get on with life as if nothing happened? You cannot claim with sincerity that justice has been done IF you have not punished the person or persons responsible for the murders and you may have a not responsible person in jail who could have been framed. As members of the public we do have the right to be safe and to know that the justice system has done all what it could to catch this killer, but with the available information presented on indymedia there are too many questions left unresolved, the biggest unresolved issue is that Ivan has continued to fight for his innocence and claim that he was not involved in these murders.
The evidence posted on these websites keeps pointing in the direction that other people with psychopathy and extreme violence were not considered to be involved by police and Ivan was considered the only person involved and responsible.
Ivan Milat knows the truth and he shouldve been given the opportunity to submit and appeal his conviction if he believed that there was incorrect and incomplete evidence submitted in his conviction, free from political interferences.The media also played its own propaganda machine and did not stand for the rights of an individual to seek what he believed to be justice and wrongful conviction.
If he is guilty why did he continue even without legal assistance to fight to clear his name and absolve himself of this and get the trial reopened?
It does not make any sense!
Granted this was his choice and many people who are in fact not guilty do give up due to legal costs in regards to clearing their names when they are not guilty of accused crimes, many also being so overwhelmed by the battle just give up and leave the consequences in the hands of the good Lord up above.
May justice be done for the innocent people who lives were taken by this evil.

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